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No, we don’t and I think it is because we do not like to fail. And whenever we fail, we can use the fixed mindset as our excuse (“I knew it all along, I am not an artist.”). We should instead embrace tasks where we might struggle and fail and use those challenges to grow our intelligence. We are to begin a new academic year, and as educators we can start taking baby steps and start communicating to the students that as long as they embrace struggle and mistakes, they can learn anything. We need to to start praising students’ thinking process versus praising an innate trait or talent.
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I don't think that we do have a growth mindset. We group students according to scores and how they seem to do with a subject. We need to give the students experiences and the encouragement to believe they can learn it. It needs to be our assumption that all students are going to succeed. We also need to get all students to believe that they will learn.
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No, this society does not have a growth mindset. The evidence presented here shows the growth mindset in the child's first year of school. Afterwards the fixed mindset is shown and more of it continues for every year that the child is in school. To me this is because of the measuring of student progress. I think students tend to become comfortable at their levels of ease. Ricci writing here says that at the point of entering middle school the fixed mindset is already at hand.
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No, this society does not have a growth mindset. The evidence presented here shows the growth mindset in the child's first year of school. Afterwards the fixed mindset is shown and more of it continues for every year that the child is in school. To me this is because of the measuring of student progress. I think students tend to become comfortable at their levels of ease. Ricci's writing here, says that at the point of entering middle school the fixed mindset is already at hand.
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As a whole, I think our society still adheres to the fixed mindset mentality, although there are glimmers or change here and there. I still hear parents tell me that their child just isn't good at math... and they (the parents) weren't, either, so that's "to be expected." I try to counter this attitude and help them realize that their kiddo CAN understand the concepts and achieve success, but at times that falls on deaf ears. And it's pretty common still for teachers to have much lower expectations of students who fall into a lower achievement/IQ/whatever_test range. Like some of the other participants, I, too, grew up and was educated to expect a "bell curve" of achievement. Unfortunately that still clouds my thinking at times and I have to consciously adjust my thoughts and expectations. I do have a bright spot to relate, however. One of my kids last year was a struggling student - ADD, learning disability, low scores on our achievement test, etc. She'd had a really tough time academically over the years, but she was the most persistent, hard-working student I have ever had the pleasure to teach. She insisted on doing all the work the others did, and doing it in a timely manner; she'd push herself to accomplish all that she could. Her parents, I believe, had a direct influence on her belief that hard work and determination would allow her to succeed. They, in my mind, lived and breathed the essence of a growth mindset. Michelle
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Question #1 (sorry for the late reply…I was out of town)
Do we as a society believe in a growth mindset? Why or why not? I would say that as a society, no, we do not have a growth mindset. Society, parents, educators, even the child themselves come to school with a set mindset. This could be placed on the child through what parent's tell them, what society tells them, or even friendly competition the child may have with their peers. However, after reading chapter one, I am hopeful as an educator that we break down any beliefs our students and even parents have and begin to "shift" their way of thinking, so they may learn to instill in them a growth mindset. I like how the author states, "Potential can never be "full"; it is never ending and our possibilities are infinite. As a person grows, learning and experiences become more sophisticated and challenging, growth continually occurs, and potential is never reached because it is impossible to reach (Chapter 1, pg. 8). As kindergartners, children enter our classroom bright eyed and ready to learn and soak up all the knowledge. As educators, we need to continue that growth and magic of learning throughout their school years. Selina
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Do we as a society believe in a growth mindset? Why or why not? I do not believe we as a society believe in a growth mindset. In a lot of ways, I feel we as a society have been programmed to praise things off-handedly. Saying things like "you are so pretty" or "you are so smart"... my own children expect participation medals for everything. As a parent and an educator I was appalled at my children's awards ceremonies this year in school. Every student earned an award. Unfortunately, that's not how life works. __________________ Jennifer Goedken
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Do we as a society believe in a growth mindset? Unfortunately a good portion of society has not come to grasp this concept. This is the first time I’ve done in depth reading on the subject. I’ve always told my students to try when they’ve given up and I usually always get, “I can’t do it” or “I won’t do it because I suck at this” I’ve heard so many different variations of those two quotes.
I grew up with a fixed mindset and see it around me most of the time. I was not real good with math and science in my elementary years through high school. I believed I could never be a wiz when it came to those two subjects. When I started college, my mindset was stalling me from reaching my potential so I changed it (I can learn this! I can get good grades!) Yep it was me who turned me around. I’m still a bit iffy with math, but I love science now!
I think people just have a hard time with change and want things to stay the ways it’s always been.
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Prior to reading this book, I don’t ever remember hearing other educators suggest that every child can learn. So I would agree with the previous comments that society does not have a growth mindset. But teachers tend to be open to new ideas, so I believe that the teaching profession in general can and will develop a growth mindset and spread it throughout society. I am a big proponent of the saying “use it or lose it”. The earlier we teach our students that they are capable if they put their minds to it, the more likely they will develop the skills they need to become successful. On a personal note, I enjoyed and was good at math. I chose a business career path (followed by a late career change to teaching math), but expected my kids to be good at math. They were both smart, but neither excelled in math classes. However, my daughter’s undergrad was astrophysics (she’s getting a PhD in astronomy) and my son is a structural engineer for NASA. The STEM expectation (growth mindset) was there, they just didn’t show it in their grades.
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I believe our society does believe in a growth mindset, but we are too unwilling to work for it. Teachers, by their definition, most definitely have a growth mindset. They strive to teach so that students can learn and advance and want to explore and find answers for themselves. We are there to set the stage but the student must be willing to work also. Teachers, mothers, fathers, coaches, etc. have high hopes for their children. We can guide and encourage, but the student must eventually take on the load and exert a mighty effort to become what they hope.
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I don't believe that our society currently has a growth mindset. I definitely hear comments just like those used in the book as examples of a fixed mindset. We hear all the time that not every student is college material and therefore shouldn't be expected to take 4 math classes or up to/passed Algebra 2. A growth mindset would encourage students by telling them that they can pass Algebra 2, they can go to college, they can get a professional job if they are willing to work for it. I do believe we can get there, though.
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I think as a society, we do not believe in a growth mindset. Why? As Ricci states, “our society has become one that values pace.” We are obsessed with starting children ridiculously early at learning skills and then giving up on teaching them these skills if they don’t master them at the age of 5. This holds true with academics, as well as athletics. It’s sad, really. I think there is a segment of the population that is educated on cognitive science and they believe in a growth mindset. I also think certain individuals that have grit and are determined to learn a particular skill or succeed in a certain aspect of the world as adults also believe in a growth mindset (probably without even realizing it). Unfortunately, our current education system is taking away the opportunity for each child to learn at their own pace (especially since standardized testing has been in place). Being labeled as special education can also cause some children to just give up or believe they just can’t do it. As an educator, that’s the ONLY barrier to learning that was incredibly hard to overcome; the fixed mindset of a child who has believed they couldn’t learn what their classmates could. I think our education system really needs to focus more on a child’s effort and ability to think critically in different situations, instead of focusing on mastering specific knowledges and skills at a certain age
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No, I do not think we have growth mindset as a society unfortunately. Smart kids think they are smart and they are born with all the knowledge they need. This is evident when high school seniors graduate and go to their freshman year of college and say, "Man this is hard. I really had to study!" This implies that they didn't have to try hard in school because they think they "knew it all" and could get by with doing as little as possible. I do think however with as much emphasis on college and career readiness, so me people are starting to understand it's OK to not go to college. In that case, they would have to learn something new in a certain field that they choose. So even if they had no previous knowledge od the field they are choosing, they are having to learn something new, which puts them in that growth mindset.
__________________ Stacey Ward
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I believe as a society we seem to have a fixed mindset. We learn at an early age what we excel at and then we choose activities and careers that showcase those strengths. I hope the society of teachers I work with like me try to have a growth mindset because without it I do not see how we can inspire young minds to be the best that they can be.
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Do we as a society believe in a growth mindset? Why or why not?
No, because people tend to pigeon-hole each other. My reasoning: If you’re from a certain university, side of the tracks, socio-economic background, how we sound when we talk, what we wear, and/or who we spend time with, etc. We are judged positively or negatively by these factors. And we (at times) put limitations on our own capabilities.
However, on the plus side in all walks of life, there are people who do see/use the growth mindset even though they may not realize it. They understand that it is possible to learn in most circumstances and there is room for growth and building on what we already know.
And for those who don’t already have a growth mindset - we can learn! I’m especial encouraged by the brain-based research on page 5 of this book. “Neuroplasticity is the ability of the brain to change, adapt, and “rewire” itself throughout our entire life. Neuroplasticity creates new connections.”
From page 8: “Think of a time that it took you a little longer to learn a new skill.” For me it was typing. I took a mini course in junior high (and made a D!) and again took typing in sophomore and junior year of high school where Mrs. Crouch my typing teacher took all her typing students systematically through learning to type. She never showed a doubt that any of us would not get it. This learned skill has served me well. From secretarial work, to word processing, computer software skills, navigating the internet, to writing, to college, and now teaching. By the way: I made an A in typing in high school. This is an example of: quoted from page 28. “Neurons make new connections when you learn something new. These connections become stronger with practice and effort.”
Maybe the answer to the question about growth mindset in society is both yes and no.